KYOTO A FAILURE OR BETTER THAN EVER

Federal Industry Minister Ian Macfarlane:

"By working together particularly with developing countries like China and India, we are going to make a far bigger impact on greenhouse gas reduction than a diplomatic protocol that has already failed which is the case with Kyoto," he said.

Labor's Anthony Albanese:

"The minister is completely wrong, Kyoto has moved from strength to strength."

One of these guys has his head up his arse.